How to Keep Up with AI Without Outrunning God | Natchi Lazarus on Spirit-Led Intelligence

AI is helping Christian leaders do more, faster. But what happens when our ability to move quickly begins to outpace our ability to hear from God?

In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson speaks with Natchi Lazarus about how artificial intelligence is moving beyond simply generating content and becoming something more like a coworker, agent, or additional member of the ministry team.

Natchi explores the practical potential of agentic AI for churches and ministries—from increasing personal productivity to expanding the capacity of small teams. But as the technology becomes more powerful, he argues that Christian leaders need deeper spiritual discernment, not less.

Together, Jason and Natchi discuss what it means to move from “human versus AI” to “human plus AI”, why Christians should keep God in the loop when using new technology, and how practices of Scripture, prayer, and “spiritual white space” can help us embrace the possibilities of AI without outrunning what God is actually calling us to do.

Lausanne Movement Podcast Archive

  • Can Artificial Intelligence Lead Someone to Jesus? Chase Cappo on the Digital Frontier of Evangelism and Discipleship — Lausanne episode
  • Redeeming Human Identity: Exploring the Intersection of Scripture, AI, Biotechnology, Gender and Human Sexuality with Dr. Carmen Imes & Dr. Matthew Niermann — Lausanne episode
  • Emerging Digital Frontier: Amplifying the Gospel’s Impact through Technology with Simon Seow & Matthew Niermann — Lausanne episode

Links & Resources

  • Natchi Lazarus — Natchi’s website, writing, speaking, and resources on AI, social media, and digital ministry. natchilazarus.com
  • Spirit-Led Intelligence: Your God-Given Superpower for Thriving in the Age of AI, and Beyond — Natchi’s book on biblical wisdom and Spirit-led discernment in an AI-shaped world. Spirit-Led Intelligence on Amazon
  • Connected Church Academy — Courses, workshops, and community for Christian leaders and ministry teams learning AI, social media, and digital ministry. Connected Church Academy
  • The Connected Church — Natchi’s book on social media communication strategy for churches and Christian organisations. The Connected Church on Amazon
  • Zapier Agents — The AI-agent platform Natchi recommends in the interview as an accessible place to experiment with agentic workflows. Zapier Agents guide

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Guests in This Episode

Natchi Lazarus

Natchi Lazarus is an author, speaker, consultant, and entrepreneur working at the intersection of faith, media, and artificial intelligence. With more than 20 years of international marketing and media experience, he helps churches, ministries, and Christian organisations understand and use emerging technologies for greater ministry impact.

Natchi is the founder of Connected Church Academy, where he equips Christian leaders and media teams in AI, social media, and digital ministry, and co-founder of Open Minds Agency. He is also the author of The Connected Church and is developing Spirit-Led Intelligence, which explores how Christians can navigate an increasingly AI-driven world with biblical wisdom and dependence on the Holy Spirit.

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